DJI Drones: a personal experience

I bought a Phantom 3 Advanced drone in December 2015. It is a truly remarkable piece of highly advanced technology, combining computing power, radio communication, multi-functional graphic displays, highly powered but very small electric motors and advanced lithium battery technologies.

Most important to me, the Phantom gave me the power to place a camera within a three dimensional space rather than the two dimensions to which I, and most other photographers, are usually limited. It literally gave me another dimension in my choice of where to place my camera.

The Phantom failed to fly in April 2019. It had previously given me trouble and the correspondence I'd had with the retailer, Mongrel Gear, had given me the impression that in this situation, with the particular failure, repair would be unlikely to be possible.

I bought a new drone, a Mavic Mini, also a DJI model, and also from Mongrel Gear, in February 2020.

This page is intended to describe my impressions and experiences with the two drones, including the bad bits as well as the good bits.

Page created 2015/12/20, last edited 2021/09/16
Contact: David K. Clarke – ©

Phantom 3

It is much easier to note faults, shortcomings and complaints than it is to note points of satisfaction. At the time of writing, 2015/12/20, I was, in general, very pleased with my drone, but I did feel that the instructions provided could be greatly improved, and that the operations needed to upgrade the firmware could be much better explained.

Serpentine River and Lake Goegrup, Mandurah, Western Australia
The drone attracts interest from passers-by. I'm the one in the foreground on the right here, the walker with his dog stopped to chat. Unfortunately, keeping up even a light conversation does not aid the concentration required to fly the drone and take photos.
Photo December 2015
War Memorial
Mandurah War Memorial, Western Australia

Phantom 3; what you need besides the drone itself

The Phantom 3 Advanced drone comes with a remote control unit, a set of spare propellers, a battery, a battery charging unit, several leads, and a few other odds and ends.

In addition to this the user must have a 'compatible device' which may be one of several up-to-date iPhones, smart phones, tablets, mini iPads or similar. I had to buy an iPad mini 2 at a cost of about Aus$380. This is not an optional extra, it is an absolute necessity.

The user will also need access to the Internet to set-up the drone and iPad, but not to fly the drone once the set-up is completed.

Phantom 3; the instructions provided

The instructions that DJI provide for their excellent drone are a long way short of excellent.

The Phantom 3 Advanced comes with a very limited set of written instructions. Apart from the Safety Guidelines and Disclaimer booklet there is a single sheet of paper folded into five sections, each about A5 size, titled Quick Start Guide. These are quite inadequate.

After some time I discovered that a much more detailed 58-page set of instructions, the DGI Phantom 3 Advanced User Manual, can be downloaded from the DJI site. But this too is not what it might be. For one thing it refers to the "DJI Pilot app" which seems to have been superceded by the DJI GO app.

For a beginner to get started using DJI's instructions is slow, difficult, confusing, and frustrating.

Phantom 3; updating firmware, 2015/12/19

The DJI instructions (in the manual) for updating the firmware state "To check your current firmware version, launch the DJI GO app and tap through Camera View > System Status Bar > Overall Status". What is the System Status Bar? Nowhere in the manual is the System Status Bar referred to! Firmware update guide, P5, "If your ... remote controller firmware is v1.3.20 or above, you must use the DJI GO app to update the firmware". This turned out to not be true.

My first attempt to update the firmware, from the instructions on the DJI site, failed and gave me a drone that I could not use for several days (because I had no access to the Internet to try the update again).

When I did again have access to the Internet I found Drone Camps after a search. I followed the instructions given in Drone Camps and the firmware installed successfully in the aircraft. (Not in the remote control, but perhaps there was none to be installed in it.)

It seems that the very small LED at the front side of the camera gimbal flashes red and green while the installation process is in progress. A loud beeping sound, described as "D, D, D" in the manual is made if the update has been unsuccessful. A much quieter beeping takes place during updating that is progressing satisfactorily.

Phantom 3; the camera

The focal length and angle-of-view

Distortion in corner
Distortion near the (right top) corner of an image
The camera has an f/2.8 lens and a 94° field of view (about the equivalent of a 20mm focal length on a 35mm camera) which would be classed as a very wide angle lens; a 'standard' lens has a focal length of about 50mm.

At first the choice of a very wide angle lens seems odd. It means that the Phantom 3 is not of much use for photographing something like a bird in a tree; you are not going to be able to get anywhere near close enough.

The P3A camera has a 94° angle of view on the diagonal, a standard 50mm lens on a 35mm camera has a 47° angle of view (see Wikipedia). I would have preferred that the camera had something around the 47° angle of view.

I suspect there are several reasons for the extra wide angle lense:

  1. It makes it easy to find the view that you want to photograph; a lens with a smaller angle of view could make this much more difficult, especially for beginners;
  2. If you want to include the horizon in the photo, the wide angle gives you quite a bit of foreground;
  3. A little movement is less likely to cause blurring.

The very wide angle of view means that there is quite a bit of distortion toward the corners of the images, as can be seen in the detail on the right, which is a small part of the full original. However, so far as I can tell, straight lines anywhere in the field of view are rendered as straight lines in the images. Distortion of the type shown in the image on the right is unaviodable in a very wide angle view if straight lines on the ground are to be rendered as straight lines on the image.

The portion of the image shown on the right is about a quarter the width of the original.

Upward tilt on the gimbal

Sunset over Mandurah, Western Australia
The camera firmware defaults to limiting the camera to pointing between the horizontal and straight down. You cannot tilt it upward.

This can be changed on the gimbal settings, and it must be changed if you want to photograph something like a sunset or a cloud formation.

To capture the photo on the right I had to tilt the camera upward. Note that parts of the drone can be seen in the top corners of the image.


The images are 12 megapixels (4000 x 3000 pixels) and the image files as they come from the camera are about 5 megabytes. The files can be reduced to one megabyte using an image editing tool such as Irfan View without noticeable loss of quality.

Serpentine loop track
Serpentine loop track – drone selfie

This section added 2020/02/13

Mavic Mini

I received my new drone 2020/02/11.

Mavic Mini; setting up

Getting it ready to fly involved charging the batteries and updating the firmware. This didn't go smoothly. It took quite a long while with the drone apparently attempting several times to install the firmware. At one point there was a message that said something like "Installation successful, when the drone automatically switches off restart it". It didn't switch off, its indicator light flashed red for many minutes leaving me unsure what I should do. After a time I went back to the installation process. At another point there was a message that said something like "Installation failed, contact DJI".

After something more than an hour the updating seemed to be successful. The drone got quite hot during the updating and when I attempted to prepare it to fly I received a message saying that it was too hot and should be allowed to cool before flying.

Finally, after a total of several hours, and recharging the batteries again, I successfully test flew the drone.

Not an auspicious beginning.

Mavic Mini; first impressions

On stability and controllability the MM seemed to be at least as good as the older Phantom 3.

I was surprised to get a strong wind warning when I sent the drone up to about 40 metres. There was no indication in the controllability of the drone that the wind was a problem at all, and the wind was not at all strong at ground level. (The Phantom 3 didn't give strong wind warnings.)

Mavic Mini; image quality

Brooks Lookout, Clare, South Australia
Brooks Lookout
A record photo taken 10 months after the area was burned in a bushfire.
Photo date 2020/02/14
As I used the Phantom 3 mainly for still photography and intend the same for the Mavic, image quality is very important to me.

It seems that, if anything, the Mavic Mini has even better image quality than the Phantom; but both gave excellent images. In my experience the effective number of pixels in images is usually about a quarter of the actual number of pixels.

For example, if a camera has images with 4000 x 3000 pixels, I usually figure on this being effectively 2000 x 1500. (The Phantom 3 has 4000 x 3000 pixels, 12 MP; the Mavic Mini has 4000 x 2250, 9 MP.) That is, with many cameras, if one resizes a 4000 x 3000 pixel image to 2000 x 1500 pixels, very little detail will be lost. But with the Mavic it seems that all 9 million pixels are significant.

This is very important because it means that a small section of a photo can be 'blown-up' and still look sharp; effectively providing some telephoto capability from a fixed-focus lens. See the image below.

The image on the right is a small section taken from the same original as used for the larger image above. It shows the shelter shed on the mid-left of the above photo.

The colour of the two images differ because the upper one was altered to allow for the 'high dynamic range' in the lighting (the sky and the land in the distance were much brighter than the foreground).

Comment 2020/04/24

I continue to be very pleased with my Mavik Mini. Ever since the frustrating and worrying setting up when I received it, it has behaved faultlessly. It is much quicker to get into the air than the Phantom 3, and it is much more easily portable. I continue to be very impressed with the camera.

I used to carry the Phantom around in its cardboard packing box. I bought the carrying case with the Mini; it is far easier to carry around than the Phantom box. The drone itself weighs about 150g, with a battery the weight goes up to just under 250g. The drone, three batteries, controller, charger and carrying case adds up to about 1.25kg.

Its size makes it harder to see in the air than was the Phantom.

Mavic Mini photo
Click on the image to get higher resolution (2000x1125; full resolution is 4000x2250).
Taken 2020/06/17

Comment 2020/09/29

The Mavic Mini gives strong wind warnings even in quite moderate winds, so I tend to ignore them (to some extent). This could lead to a "the boy who cried wolf" situation.

I love the easy portability of the Mini, it's easy to take on a long walk, either in my hand or in a small backpack.

I see that there is a firmware update available. Given the problems with installing the firmware when I received the drone I probably will not update it.

Comment 2021/09/16

The Mavik Mini behaved erratically on one flight recently. It seemed to be failing to respond to any commands to move in the directions I wanted it to go. Finally I got it to land where it was, and fortunately that was not far away.

Apart from that it has continued to work very well.

Photographic subjects

In my experience a drone-mounted camera is most valuable when one needs an elevated view-point while on flat land or when an elevated viewpoint is needed to get close to tall objects such as wind turbines.

It is less valuable in hilly country when elevated viewpoints are easily reached or when the elevation that can be legally reached by a drone is small compared with the height of the hills or mountains.

What subjects have I used a drone to photograph?

A large installation on flat ground

Sundrop Farm

Above is Sundrop Farm, Port Augusta. It is a giant tomato-growing greenhouse in a hot dry part of South Australia that uses solar power to take the salt out of seawater and to heat or cool the greenhouses.

The land is quite flat, so one can see very little from the ground, but a drone allows you to place a camera exactly where you want it.

Another large installation in flat country

Euston bridge

The Euston-Robinvale bridge showing the widespread floodwaters covering the flood-plain. Robinvale is on the left, Euston in the distance in the upper-centre.

The image is a stitch of six drone photos covering well over 180 degrees; the bridge is actually straight.

Again, using an elevated point of view

Tumut morning

Early morning at Tumut

This composite of five wide-angle drone images probably covers around 180 degrees.


An elevated view of something one could not normally get close to

Wind farm

Hallett Hill Wind Farm in South Australia is on farming/grazing land. My drone was flown from a nearby public road and allowed me to get a perspective close to one of the turbines with some of the others in the background.

It was a fairly calm day; the turbines were hardly moving.